9q13nh 发表于 2024-8-16 16:47:14

Sourcing与Buyer,Purchasing和Procurement,你分得清楚吗?


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      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><strong style="color: blue;">导语:相对而言,Sourcing的过程可能很短,<span style="color: black;">亦</span>可能很长,但确是“一次性<span style="color: black;">行径</span>”,一旦选定合适的供应商并把<span style="color: black;">她们</span>带上正规,Sourcing的任务就基本完成。当然Sourcing的过程可能很长。<span style="color: black;">而后</span>是Purchasing去执行<span style="color: black;">平常</span>订单管理。当然<span style="color: black;">倘若</span>Sourcing选定的供应商有表现问题,例如质量、交货、价格等,<span style="color: black;">那样</span>Sourcing有可能再度涉入,寻找新的供应商。当然这种区分有点理论化。在<span style="color: black;">非常多</span><span style="color: black;">机构</span>,Sourcing和Purchasing<span style="color: black;">是由于</span>同一组人员完成。但<span style="color: black;">针对</span>建制完全的大<span style="color: black;">机构</span>,总体趋势是把Sourcing从Purchasing分离出来。</strong></p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><strong style="color: blue;"> 定义上的区别 </strong></p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">与采购<span style="color: black;">相关</span>的词有:Buyer,Purchasing,Procurement和Sourcing。我把它们分别译为:买;采购;获取(或资源获取);寻源与货源组织。从<span style="color: black;">她们</span><span style="color: black;">显现</span>的<span style="color: black;">次序</span>上<span style="color: black;">亦</span><span style="color: black;">能够</span>看出它们虽然<span style="color: black;">最后</span>都完<span style="color: black;">成为了</span>采购的业务,但含义和执行工程是<span style="color: black;">区别</span>的:</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">1、Buyer只是简单的买,完<span style="color: black;">成为了</span>“买”的动作和买入了某样物资或服务,侧重于下单,并跟踪订单;</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">2、Purchasing则有采购的意思,即先要采,<span style="color: black;">而后</span>再买进;</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">3、Procurement是实现了资源获取,有整合与更好的<span style="color: black;">得到</span>资源的意思;</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">4、Sourcing<span style="color: black;">通常</span>是制造型企业用的,<span style="color: black;">需求</span>有很强的理工知识和<span style="color: black;">商场</span>感觉,是要去在<span style="color: black;">全世界</span>范围内找到最好的资源、<span style="color: black;">而后</span>将找到的货源和资源组合在<span style="color: black;">一块</span>来更好地加以利用,侧重于物料和供应商的<span style="color: black;">研发</span>,<span style="color: black;">研发</span>完成后交给buyer下单跟踪。它们的演变是随着采购业务<span style="color: black;">持续</span>发展的需求而<span style="color: black;">显现</span>和扩展而来的。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><strong style="color: blue;"> 职能上的区别和<span style="color: black;">详细</span>分工 </strong></p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Sourcing与Purchasing 翻译成中文, Sourcing,Purchasing和buyer都是采购的意思,但<span style="color: black;">实质</span>上<span style="color: black;">她们</span>的职能是大不相同。Sourcing是<span style="color: black;">按照</span>客户的需求,寻找,<span style="color: black;">发掘</span>,<span style="color: black;">评定</span>,审核,发展合格的供应商,有的叫procurement,意思是<span style="color: black;">发掘</span>采购。<span style="color: black;">通常</span>对应中文是供应商<span style="color: black;">研发</span>或发展多。<span style="color: black;">同期</span><span style="color: black;">亦</span><span style="color: black;">包含</span>新BOM(Bill of Material)报价和谈价的工作。侧重于技术层面,是去寻找和确定符合资质的新供应商或新<span style="color: black;">制品</span>的供应商。偏重于对整体项目的分析。<span style="color: black;">例如</span>你<span style="color: black;">必须</span>采购<span style="color: black;">制品</span>A,你要对A 进行<span style="color: black;">危害</span>分析,<span style="color: black;">例如</span>这个项目<span style="color: black;">是不是</span>适合中国的市场,他的技术参数<span style="color: black;">是不是</span>是大部分供应商能达到;近期的原油价格会不会涨价,<span style="color: black;">导致</span>运费<span style="color: black;">增多</span>,<span style="color: black;">或</span>塑料涨价格,你做这个项目有多少saving ;<span style="color: black;">倘若</span>有些<span style="color: black;">情况</span>你<span style="color: black;">起始</span>就预料到的并<span style="color: black;">有害</span>于<span style="color: black;">这般</span>项目,你有权将项目停掉,<span style="color: black;">以避免</span>浪费人力物力,Sourcing 的这个工作和职位,对潜在<span style="color: black;">危害</span>的预测是有比较高的<span style="color: black;">需求</span>,<span style="color: black;">同期</span>他还可能负责初期的供应商寻找和筛选。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Purchasing是<span style="color: black;">按照</span>sourcing的合格供应商名录,结合生产和<span style="color: black;">营销</span>需求,在合适的时间采购合适的数量的<span style="color: black;">制品</span>。对应中文叫采购的多。是sourcing engineer分析了<span style="color: black;">全部</span>项目<span style="color: black;">危害</span>后决定<span style="color: black;">起始</span>做这个项目后,Purchaser 是项目的执行者,<span style="color: black;">便是</span>去像供应商进行谈价格比价格,确定<span style="color: black;">详细</span>供应商,跟单确认交货期,和工厂协调,邮寄样品,Purchaser 是事物的<span style="color: black;">详细</span>执行者, 你拿到的这些Potential suppliers list 时,供应商的<span style="color: black;">状况</span>要<span style="color: black;">即时</span>和Sourcing engineer 交流。他比较权威,基本上凭借他的经验是一眼<span style="color: black;">能够</span>看出在这个行业中<span style="color: black;">那些</span>供应商<span style="color: black;">特别有</span>能力,<span style="color: black;">那些</span>不太好。<span style="color: black;">因此</span>说,Sourcing 是比较高级的,他把握了一个项目的整体方向;Purchase 是在正确方向的<span style="color: black;">状况</span>下做一个项目的实施者,<span style="color: black;">重点</span>执行<span style="color: black;">详细</span>的<span style="color: black;">平常</span>采购任务。相<span style="color: black;">针对</span>Sourcing,Purchasing更侧重于订单处理(PO Transaction),即询价、下订单、跟踪订单、催单、收货、付款等。<span style="color: black;">此刻</span><span style="color: black;">由于</span><span style="color: black;">海量</span>的<span style="color: black;">运用</span>ERP等IT资源,许多大<span style="color: black;">机构</span>的从事 Purchasing的buyer<span style="color: black;">同期</span><span style="color: black;">亦</span>是Planner,即计划人员<span style="color: black;">同期</span><span style="color: black;">亦</span>是采购人员,<span style="color: black;">她们</span>会<span style="color: black;">按照</span>系统的相应信息来发行订单。有<span style="color: black;">有些</span>日资企业<span style="color: black;">由于</span>分工相当细,Planner不会发行订单与供应商联系,还<span style="color: black;">是由于</span>BUYER在做订单工作。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">相对而言,Sourcing的过程可能很短,<span style="color: black;">亦</span>可能很长,但确是“一次性<span style="color: black;">行径</span>”,一旦选定合适的供应商并把<span style="color: black;">她们</span>带上正规,Sourcing的任务就基本完成。当然Sourcing的过程可能很长。<span style="color: black;">而后</span>是Purchasing去执行<span style="color: black;">平常</span>订单管理。当然<span style="color: black;">倘若</span>Sourcing选定的供应商有表现问题,例如质量、交货、价格等,<span style="color: black;">那样</span>Sourcing有可能再度涉入,寻找新的供应商。当然这种区分有点理论化。在<span style="color: black;">非常多</span><span style="color: black;">机构</span>,Sourcing和Purchasing<span style="color: black;">是由于</span>同一组人员完成。但<span style="color: black;">针对</span>建制完全的大<span style="color: black;">机构</span>,总体趋势是把Sourcing从Purchasing分离出来。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">从上面的分工不难看出,Sourcing相对更战略<span style="color: black;">有些</span>,有可<span style="color: black;">连续</span>性,需<span style="color: black;">长时间</span>规划;而Purchasing更侧重于<span style="color: black;">平常</span>工作。<span style="color: black;">能够</span>是单独一次商务购买<span style="color: black;">行径</span>。在<span style="color: black;">实质</span>工作中,Sourcing与<span style="color: black;">制品</span>部、工程技术人员等交流较多,而Purchasing则<span style="color: black;">重点</span>是支持生产部、客户服务部(例如备件、配件)。Sourcing team<span style="color: black;">通常</span>由Sourcing Manager加采购/供应商工程师<span style="color: black;">形成</span>;而Purchasing则由Purchasing Manager加采购员、催货员、检验员等<span style="color: black;">构成</span>。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">就现<span style="color: black;">周期</span>的大趋势来看,采购<span style="color: black;">分部</span>的职能<span style="color: black;">逐步</span>从Purchasing向Sourcing过渡,<span style="color: black;">便是</span>采购的<span style="color: black;">功效</span>和在<span style="color: black;">机构</span>的地位<span style="color: black;">持续</span><span style="color: black;">提高</span>的过程。采购<span style="color: black;">分部</span><span style="color: black;">亦</span>从原来的订单处理<span style="color: black;">更加多</span>参与到战略决策过程,例如决定<span style="color: black;">机构</span>自己制造还是采购(Make or Buy)、<span style="color: black;">选取</span>合适的战略性合作供应商、很大程度上决定<span style="color: black;">制品</span>的<span style="color: black;">最后</span>价格(<span style="color: black;">由于</span>采购部分占的分量越来越大)。当然,对个人而言,<span style="color: black;">倘若</span>想向Sourcing方面发展的话,Purchasing的功底还是<span style="color: black;">特别有</span>好处。<span style="color: black;">由于</span><span style="color: black;">哪些</span><span style="color: black;">平常</span>工作<span style="color: black;">亦</span>挺能<span style="color: black;">熬炼</span>人的基本功。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">采购工作最核心的权力有三个:supplier selection(供应商样品认证), allocation(采购量分配)和cost down(成本降低)。看一个采购的重要性和工作含金量,<span style="color: black;">咱们</span>就看他<span style="color: black;">能够</span><span style="color: black;">掌控</span>住三个权力中的<span style="color: black;">那些</span>部分。Sourcing肯定<span style="color: black;">能够</span><span style="color: black;">把握</span>supplier selection,负责供应商出样,完成样品认证,在系统中<span style="color: black;">创立</span>合格供应商的代码。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Buyer <span style="color: black;">便是</span>买手、代理之类的,<span style="color: black;">通常</span>更贴近Purchasing,但服装业,或奢侈品行业的sourcing叫buyer或merchandiser的多,但对应中文是买手,而不单是采购。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><strong style="color: blue;"> Sourcing工作职责:</strong></p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(1)供应商<span style="color: black;">研发</span>(<span style="color: black;">或</span>参与<span style="color: black;">制品</span>开发,具备专业能力)</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(2)核定采购订单分配比率 </p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(3)主导新供货商的评鉴</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(4)主导合格供货商绩效<span style="color: black;">评定</span>与管理</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(5)竞标、议价、合约<span style="color: black;">签定</span>与管理</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(6)采购单价/标准单价<span style="color: black;">创立</span>与<span style="color: black;">守护</span>厂商报价单(<span style="color: black;">包含</span>单价、材料Lead Time、最小订购量、单位包装)之制订与发行单价记录单(Cost Pattern)之发行与归档</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(7)采购单价及付款<span style="color: black;">要求</span>变动时之系统<span style="color: black;">即时</span><span style="color: black;">守护</span></p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(8)<span style="color: black;">反常</span>付款确认与会签 </p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(9)<span style="color: black;">帮助</span>工厂必要之材料(或材损)<span style="color: black;">情况</span>处理</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(10)总<span style="color: black;">机构</span>采购<span style="color: black;">研发</span>员<span style="color: black;">帮助</span>开立L/C作业</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(11)e-Supply 导入之前期作业, 并依循供货商管理办法 </p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><strong style="color: blue;"> Buyer工作职责:</strong></p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(1)P/R作业:材料请购书制作</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(2)P/O作业:采购订单制作、发行、归档</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(3)材料交期确认、<span style="color: black;">掌控</span>与跟催</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(4)参与新供货商评鉴及合格供货商绩效<span style="color: black;">评定</span>及回馈供货商<span style="color: black;">平常</span>现。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(5)材料入库、退库处理</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(6)MDR跟踪与归档。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(7)月结对帐、Invoice传递及付款申请单</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">8)材损过高时之供货商扣款</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(9)执行与导入e-Supply, 并依循供货商管理办法</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><strong style="color: blue;"> <span style="color: black;">区别</span>行业的<span style="color: black;">区别</span>定位 </strong></p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">在大多数体制不完全的<span style="color: black;">机构</span>里,Sourcing和Purchasing<span style="color: black;">是由于</span>同一组人员完成。但<span style="color: black;">针对</span>建制完全的大<span style="color: black;">机构</span>,<span style="color: black;">或</span>是将Sourcing从Purchasing分离出来、<span style="color: black;">作为</span>两个独立的<span style="color: black;">分部</span>,<span style="color: black;">或</span>是并在<span style="color: black;">一块</span>、<span style="color: black;">作为</span>Commodity经理的<span style="color: black;">统一</span>管理范围。<span style="color: black;">通常</span>这两个职能不会并在同一<span style="color: black;">分部</span>。<span style="color: black;">倘若</span>是规模很大的<span style="color: black;">机构</span>或一个<span style="color: black;">机构</span>很高层的级别上。应该并在<span style="color: black;">一块</span>,<span style="color: black;">作为</span>Commodity经理的<span style="color: black;">统一</span>管理范围。但<span style="color: black;">倘若</span>是不太大的<span style="color: black;">机构</span>或级别不高的<span style="color: black;">地区</span>,<span style="color: black;">通常</span><span style="color: black;">亦</span><span style="color: black;">无</span>Commodity经理,Sourcing会被放到技术<span style="color: black;">分部</span>去。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">区别</span><span style="color: black;">机构</span>,对这些职位的定义可能<span style="color: black;">区别</span>。有的<span style="color: black;">机构</span>Commodity Manager可能负责的是一类<span style="color: black;">制品</span>的采购战略,例如大的供应商<span style="color: black;">选取</span>方向,<span style="color: black;">签定</span>合同,供应商总体绩效等。Purchasing Manager负责<span style="color: black;">平常</span>订单<span style="color: black;">相关</span>的任务,管理Buyer或Procurement Agent。还有一个Materials Manager,该职位的职责从字眼上看更广泛,负责与材料<span style="color: black;">相关</span>的所有任务,例如规划(要买多少,什么时候买)、采购(围绕订单)、库存管理、仓储、物流等。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">机构</span>小了,Commodity Manager、Purchasing Manager、Materials Manager很可能<span style="color: black;">便是</span>一个人。在有些<span style="color: black;">机构</span>、行业,这些职位之间的界限有时挺模糊。有些<span style="color: black;">机构</span>,sourcing<span style="color: black;">不可</span><span style="color: black;">把握</span>allocation(采购量分配)和cost down(成本降低),这个时候,sourcing的地位就非常尴尬,工作很<span style="color: black;">欠好</span>展开,最后很容易变成<span style="color: black;">她们</span><span style="color: black;">便是</span>到处求人打样,而供应商爱理<span style="color: black;">不睬</span>,<span style="color: black;">由于</span>打样要耗费供应商成本,<span style="color: black;">然则</span>后来有不有订单下来,成交价格是多少,sourcing又<span style="color: black;">不可</span><span style="color: black;">掌控</span>,<span style="color: black;">此时</span>,做purchasing的buyer就非常关键,<span style="color: black;">实质</span><span style="color: black;">功效</span>就大于sourcing。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">倘若</span>三个权力都集中在sourcing那里,buyer就等于被架空、无事可做,sourcing工作的好坏将会很大程度上影响采购<span style="color: black;">分部</span>的绩效。可是,<span style="color: black;">非常多</span><span style="color: black;">机构</span>并<span style="color: black;">无</span>把这三项权力集中到采购部,而是被<span style="color: black;">机构</span>更高层的领导所<span style="color: black;">掌控</span>。<span style="color: black;">此时</span>,采购部的重要性就大大削弱,<span style="color: black;">乃至</span>退居次席,在<span style="color: black;">选取</span>供应商和谈价格时,都是走过场,停留在表面。至于企业<span style="color: black;">是不是</span>以最好的价格买到物料,采购部<span style="color: black;">基本</span>就回答不了。我看过<span style="color: black;">有些</span>大<span style="color: black;">机构</span>的采购记录,<span style="color: black;">她们</span>虽然采用最先进的系统和管理手段,<span style="color: black;">然则</span><span style="color: black;">她们</span>的采购价格并<span style="color: black;">欠好</span>,有些时候非常糟糕,<span style="color: black;">原由</span><span style="color: black;">便是</span>采购和供应管理中,形式大于实质,采购部<span style="color: black;">无</span>被赋予足够的权力,<span style="color: black;">无</span>得到足够的支持,开展工作中有太多的掣肘。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">purchasing<span style="color: black;">每一个</span><span style="color: black;">机构</span>可能不<span style="color: black;">同样</span>。sourcing的关键是你<span style="color: black;">是不是</span>有决定<span style="color: black;">运用</span>哪个供应商的权利。有些<span style="color: black;">机构</span>的架构是<span style="color: black;">这般</span>:</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">1、regional purchasing manager-<span style="color: black;">她们</span>制定相应<span style="color: black;">制品</span>的regional strategy, 决定<span style="color: black;">运用</span><span style="color: black;">哪些</span>供应商</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">2、plant purchasing manager-他们协调SCM(Supply Chain Management)和regional purchasing manager 的关系,<span style="color: black;">同期</span>负责小料的采购</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><strong style="color: blue;"> regional purchasing manager的职责:</strong></p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">1、Spending analysis</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">2、Regular price negotiation</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">3、Regional strategy setup</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">4、Saving project initiate</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">5、Price development control</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">6、Coordinate global-regional strategy</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">因此</span>说实权在regional purchasing,<span style="color: black;">实质</span>上<span style="color: black;">便是</span><span style="color: black;">咱们</span>说的sourcing。最基本的一条规则是:谈价格、决定供应商的人绝对<span style="color: black;">不可</span>下单,下单的人绝对<span style="color: black;">不可</span>谈价格。避免道德<span style="color: black;">危害</span>。</p>
      <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">源自</span>:飞灵汽车网</p>
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