《经济学人》双语:完美主义的3大消极影响?
<h1 style="color: black; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 10px;">《经济学人》双语:完美主义的3大<span style="color: black;">消极</span>影响?</h1>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">The perils of perfectionism</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">A backlash against the tyranny of high expectations</p>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">完美主义的危险性</p>反制高期望所带来的严苛
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">It is the worlds most tired interview question: what is your greatest weakness?</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">世界上最令人感到厌烦的面试问题<span style="color: black;">便是</span>:你最大的缺点是什么?</p>And Rishi Sunak, one of the two remaining candidates in the race to become Britains prime minister, gave the worlds most tired answer——perfectionism——when he was asked it at an online<strong style="color: blue;">hustings </strong>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">earlier this month.</p>本月早时,里希·苏纳克在线上协商会议中给出了世界上最令人厌倦的答案——完美主义。他是英国首相竞选的两位<span style="color: black;">最后</span>候选人之一。
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">No interviewee would answer this question with an unambiguous negative (“stupidity", say, or "body odour).</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">无</span>一个受访者会用<span style="color: black;">显著</span><span style="color: black;">消极</span>的答案来回答这个问题(<span style="color: black;">例如</span>“愚蠢”或“体味”)。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Like all those who have reached for it before, Mr Sunak will have intended his reply to signal that his flaws are virtues, especially compared with the shambolic style of Boris Johnsons outgoing government.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">跟<span style="color: black;">哪些</span><span style="color: black;">一样</span>用“完美主义”来回答这个问题的人<span style="color: black;">同样</span>,苏纳克<span style="color: black;">期盼</span>他的回答能把缺点说成优点,<span style="color: black;">尤其</span>是与卸任的鲍里斯·约翰逊政府的混乱风格相比更为<span style="color: black;">显著</span>。</p>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">But this classic response is riskier than it once was.</p>然而,这个经典回答比以往<span style="color: black;">危害</span>更大。
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">In Mr Sunaks case that is because the job of prime minister is largely to<strong style="color: blue;">triage</strong>problems and make decisions at a relentless pace; even his supporters worry that his<strong style="color: blue;">deliberative </strong>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">由于</span>对苏纳克<span style="color: black;">来讲</span>,首相的工作很大程度上是要<span style="color: black;">连续</span><span style="color: black;">持续</span>地定位问题并给出决策,<span style="color: black;">因此呢</span>连他的支持者<span style="color: black;">亦</span>担心他审慎的风格<span style="color: black;">是不是</span>会<span style="color: black;">作为</span>一个问题。</p>More generally, perfectionism is increasingly<strong style="color: blue;">out of step</strong>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"> with the ways that products are developed, employees are treated and workforces are organised.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">更广义上来讲,完美主义与<span style="color: black;">制品</span><span style="color: black;">研发</span>、员工<span style="color: black;">薪水</span>和劳动力组织的方式越来越脱节。</p>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Start with product development.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">先从<span style="color: black;">制品</span><span style="color: black;">研发</span>说起。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Lots of digital types embrace the concept of the minimum viable product(MVP), in which companies ship prototypes that can be refined, or indeed scrapped, on the basis of feedback from early adopters.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">许<span style="color: black;">都数</span>字<span style="color: black;">制品</span>都采用了最小可行<span style="color: black;">制品</span>(MVP)的概念,即<span style="color: black;">机构</span>交付的原型<span style="color: black;">能够</span><span style="color: black;">按照</span><span style="color: black;">初期</span>采用者的反馈进行改进,<span style="color: black;">乃至</span>废弃。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">The essence of the MVP approach is anti-perfectionism: don’t procrastinate, dont spend time sweating the tiniest details, get your product into users hands and see how it does.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">MVP这种方式的本质是反完美主义:别拖延,别把时间花在最微小的细节上,把你的<span style="color: black;">制品</span>送到用户手中,<span style="color: black;">瞧瞧</span>到底效果<span style="color: black;">怎样</span>。</p><strong style="color: blue;">Fussing</strong>about font sizes and nice-to-have features is a waste of time; the market will<strong style="color: blue;">hone</strong>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"> things for you, dispensing its judgments cumulatively and dispassionately.</p>纠结于字体<span style="color: black;">体积</span>和锦上添花的功能是在浪费时间;市场会<span style="color: black;">持续</span>冷静地做出<span style="color: black;">她们</span>的判断,市场会帮你打磨出精品。
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"></p>A growing emphasis on employees’ well-being is another reason why perfectionism is <strong style="color: blue;">out of favour. </strong>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">对员工福祉的日益<span style="color: black;">注重</span>是完美主义没落的另一个<span style="color: black;">原由</span>。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">The trait is on the rise: a study published in 2017 found that it had been steadily increasing among American, British and Canadian college students between 1989 and 2016 (before you blame Instagram, one big reason is rising parental expectations.)</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">完美主义越来越<span style="color: black;">显著</span>:2017年<span style="color: black;">发布</span>的一项<span style="color: black;">科研</span><span style="color: black;">发掘</span>,从1989年到2016年,这种特征在美国、英国和加拿大大学生中稳步<span style="color: black;">提升</span>(先别急着怪Instagram,首要<span style="color: black;">原由</span>其实是父母的期望<span style="color: black;">持续</span><span style="color: black;">提升</span>)。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">The tyranny of excessively high expectations is not good for you: a big literature review in2016 concluded that perfectionism is associated with a string of mental-health disorders, from depression and burnout to stress and self-harm.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">期望过高所带来的严加<span style="color: black;">管理</span>对人<span style="color: black;">无</span>好处:2016年的一篇大型文献综述得出的结论是,完美主义与一系列心理健康<span style="color: black;">阻碍</span><span style="color: black;">相关</span>,从抑郁、精神崩溃,到压力和自残。</p>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">It matters what kind of perfectionist someone is.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">重要的是一个人是哪种类型的完美主义者。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Psychologists distinguish between a “self-oriented” version, in which people put pressure on themselves to perform flawlessly; an “other-oriented" type, in which people hold their colleagues to the highest of standards; and a “socially prescribed" version, in which employees think that they will only get on if they meet the impossible expectations of those around them.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">心理学家将其分为几种类型:一种是“自我导向型”,即严于律己,给自己施加压力,<span style="color: black;">需求</span>自己表现得完美无瑕;一种是“以他人为导向”的类型,这种类型的人严于律他,<span style="color: black;">需求</span>同事必须达到最高标准才行;还有一种是“社会导向型”,即员工认为<span style="color: black;">仅有</span>达到了<span style="color: black;">周边</span>人所设立的遥不可及的期望,<span style="color: black;">她们</span><span style="color: black;">才可</span>得到晋升。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">People in the last camp seem to be especially prone to stress.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">最后一种类型的人会格外容易压力大。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">A recent Italian study found that whereas having extremely high standards for your own performance was not a predictor of burnout, being afraid of making mistakes was.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">意大利<span style="color: black;">近期</span>的一项<span style="color: black;">科研</span><span style="color: black;">发掘</span>,对自己的表现有极高的标准并不是精神崩溃的前兆,害怕犯错才是。</p>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Perfectionists may also hurt team cohesiveness.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">完美主义可能<span style="color: black;">亦</span>有损团队的凝聚力。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">In a study conducted in 2020, Emily Kleszewski and Kathleen Otto of Philipps-University of Marburg asked people to rate potential co-workers based on descriptions of their levels and categories of perfectionism.</p>在2020年进行的一项<span style="color: black;">科研</span>中,马尔堡菲利普斯大学的艾米丽·克莱舍夫斯基和凯瑟琳·奥托让人们<span style="color: black;">按照</span>完美主义水平和类别的描述对<span style="color: black;">将来</span>的同事进行打分。
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Perfectionists were regarded as being less socially skilled and less likeable than non-perfectionists.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">与非完美主义者相比,人们认为完美主义者更缺乏社交技能,<span style="color: black;">亦</span>更不讨人<span style="color: black;">爱好</span>。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">You dont have to like your colleagues for them to be effective: in that same study, perfectionists were rated as more competent than non-perfectionists.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">你的<span style="color: black;">喜欢</span>程度与同事的工作能力无关:这项<span style="color: black;">科研</span>指出,完美主义者被认为比非完美主义者更有能力。</p>But when more and more work is organised around small groups working together, it can help not to<strong style="color: blue;"> loathe</strong>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"> each other.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">但当小团队有越来越多的工作要<span style="color: black;">一起</span>处理时,非完美主义<span style="color: black;">能够</span>让人们之间不<span style="color: black;">那样</span>互相厌烦。</p>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">By now your inner curmudgeon may well be frothing at the mouth.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">这会儿,你心里的火可能要压不住了。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Nit-picking micro-managers are deeply annoying but they are nowhere near as bad as people who dont have any standards.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">吹毛求疵,事无巨细的管理者确实非常令人讨厌,但<span style="color: black;">她们</span>远<span style="color: black;">无</span><span style="color: black;">哪些</span><span style="color: black;">无</span>任何标准的管理者糟糕。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Demanding bosses can be the difference between good products and superb ones: "thatll do" was not the mantra that made Steve Jobs successful.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">苛刻的老板可能是优秀<span style="color: black;">制品</span>和卓越<span style="color: black;">制品</span>的分水岭:史蒂夫·乔布斯的成功可不是靠把什么都“行”当成准则。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Some jobs actively require perfectionism——copy editors, say, or medicines regulators.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">有些工作非常需要完美主义——<span style="color: black;">例如</span>文案编辑或<span style="color: black;">药物</span>监管人员。</p>And since when did being <strong style="color: blue;">exacting</strong>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"> become a health risk?</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">从什么时候<span style="color: black;">起始</span>,<span style="color: black;">需求</span>严格竟会带来健康<span style="color: black;">危险</span>?</p>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Fortunately, discouraging perfectionism does not mean sacrificing high standards.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">幸运的是,<span style="color: black;">打击</span>完美主义并不<span style="color: black;">寓意</span>着牺牲高标准。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">In a paper published last year, three academics at the University of Ottawa found that people who strove for excellence did better on tests of creative thinking than people who sought perfection.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">在去年<span style="color: black;">发布</span>的一篇论文中,渥太华大学的三位学者<span style="color: black;">发掘</span>,在创造性思维测试中,追求卓越的人比追求完美的人表现更好。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Managers can explicitly define what counts as high-quality work.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">管理者<span style="color: black;">能够</span><span style="color: black;">知道</span>定义什么才算高质量的工作。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Deadlines can prevent endless procrastination.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">截止日期<span style="color: black;">能够</span>防止无休止的拖延。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Mr Sunaks call not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good came as he sat in front of a poster that misspelled the word “campaign”.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">当苏纳克坐在一张拼错了“竞选”一词的海报前时,他呼吁不要让完美变成好的对立面。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">That took things too far.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">这有点过头了。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">(恭喜读完,本篇英语词汇量约708<span style="color: black;">上下</span>)</p>原文出自:2022年7月30日《The Economist》Business版块。
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><strong style="color: blue;">里希·苏纳克(Rishi Sunak)</strong>
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">,男,印度裔,1980年出生于英国南安普顿,保守党议员,曾任英国财政大臣。当地时间2022年7月8日,英国前财政大臣苏纳克宣布将竞选英国下任首相。</p><strong style="color: blue;">最小化可行<span style="color: black;">制品</span>MVP</strong>,是<span style="color: black;">此刻</span>硅谷<span style="color: black;">制品</span><span style="color: black;">研发</span>最推崇的理念,其思想<span style="color: black;">源自</span>于“精益创业”( LeanStartup ) , 由埃里克.莱斯( Eric Ries )在《精益创业:新创企业的成长思维》中提出。精益创业<span style="color: black;">表率</span>了一种<span style="color: black;">持续</span>形成创新的新<span style="color: black;">办法</span>,它源于“精益生产”的理念,提倡企业进行“验证性学习”, 先向市场推出极简的原型<span style="color: black;">制品</span>,<span style="color: black;">而后</span>在<span style="color: black;">持续</span>地<span style="color: black;">实验</span>和学习中,以最小的成本和有效的方式验证<span style="color: black;">制品</span><span style="color: black;">是不是</span>符合用户<span style="color: black;">需要</span>,灵活<span style="color: black;">调节</span>方向。<span style="color: black;">倘若</span><span style="color: black;">制品</span>不符合市场<span style="color: black;">需要</span>,最好能“快速地失败、<span style="color: black;">低价</span>地失败”,而不要“ 昂贵地失败”;<span style="color: black;">倘若</span><span style="color: black;">制品</span>被用户认可<span style="color: black;">亦</span>应该<span style="color: black;">持续</span>学习,挖掘用户<span style="color: black;">需要</span>,迭代优化<span style="color: black;">制品</span>。
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<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">More generally, perfectionism is increasingly out of step with the ways that products are developed, employees are treated and workforces are organised.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">更广义上来讲,完美主义与<span style="color: black;">制品</span><span style="color: black;">研发</span>、员工<span style="color: black;">薪水</span>和劳动力组织的方式越来越脱节。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">The essence of the MVP approach is anti-perfectionism: don’t procrastinate, dont spend time sweating the tiniest details, get your product into users hands and see how it does.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">MVP这种方式的本质是反完美主义:别拖延,别把时间花在最微小的细节上,把你的<span style="color: black;">制品</span>送到用户手中,<span style="color: black;">瞧瞧</span>到底效果<span style="color: black;">怎样</span>。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Perfectionism is associated with a string of mental-health disorders, from depression and burnout to stress and self-harm.</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">完美主义与一系列心理健康<span style="color: black;">阻碍</span><span style="color: black;">相关</span>,从抑郁、精神崩溃,到压力和自残。</p>
<p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;">Perfectionists may also hurt team cohesiveness.</p>完美主义可能<span style="color: black;">亦</span>有损团队的凝聚力。
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